{"id":635,"date":"2019-05-25T09:55:50","date_gmt":"2019-05-25T07:55:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hisstoryantiques.nl.transurl.nl\/?p=635"},"modified":"2019-06-24T18:20:57","modified_gmt":"2019-06-24T16:20:57","slug":"635","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/fr\/2019\/05\/25\/635\/","title":{"rendered":"Dans l'impasse ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dans le message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent, j'ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 indiqu\u00e9 que j'avais quelques doutes quant \u00e0 savoir si nous \u00e9tions sur la bonne voie. Mais y a-t-il un autre choix ? Le mieux me semble de voir jusqu'o\u00f9 nous irons avec cette orientation dans notre recherche. C'est une question d\u201c\u201d\u00e9limination\". Cela semble un peu irrespectueux, mais c'est bien \u00e0 cela que cela se r\u00e9sume.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Suite \u00e0 la formidable aide du CBG, nous avons une piste \u00e0 suivre. L'armoirie de gauche appartient \u00e0 la famille noble des anciens Pays-Bas m\u00e9ridionaux \u201c Van Delft \u201d. L'armoirie de droite, celle de la dame, doit faire l'objet de plus amples recherches. <br>Les portraits datent de 1890. Si nous supposons que les personnes repr\u00e9sent\u00e9es \u00e9taient encore en vie lors de la r\u00e9alisation du portrait, les membres suivants de la famille entrent en ligne de compte :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>\u00c9mile van Delft (1834-1917), x Nelly Bar\u00e9 (1847-1904)<\/li><li>Louis van Delft (1854-1926), x C\u00e9line van Wickevoort Crommelin (1865-1936)<\/li><li> Alphonse van Delft (1817-1894), x Delia Guyot (1828-1898)<\/li><li>L\u00e9on van Delft (1845-1926), \u00e9poux de la comtesse Cl\u00e9mence Le Grelle (1855-1932) <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Maintenant, nous arrivons \u00e0 \u201c l'\u00e9limination \u201d. Cela va \u00eatre un d\u00e9fi. La seule chose que nous pouvons faire maintenant est d'estimer l'\u00e2ge du monsieur portraitur\u00e9. Il est bien connu qu'autrefois, les gens avaient l'air \u201c plus \u00e2g\u00e9s \u201d qu'aujourd'hui. J'essaie d'en tenir compte, mais il reste difficile de faire une bonne estimation. Le monsieur et la dame ont l'air d'avoir soixante-dix ans pass\u00e9s, mais il est possible qu'ils soient dans la soixantaine. Si nous retenons cette tranche d'\u00e2ge, qui reste-t-il ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L'\u00e2ge de messieurs Van Delft en 1890 :<br>\u2013 \u00c9mile van Delft :  <strong>56 <\/strong>an<br>\u2013 Louis van Delft :   <strong>36 <\/strong>an <br>\u2013 Alphonse van Delft : <strong>73 <\/strong>an <br>\u2013 L\u00e9on van Delft :  <strong>45 <\/strong>an<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"text-align:center\">Selon notre estimation, deux messieurs peuvent entrer en ligne de compte :<br><strong>\u00c9mile <\/strong>fr <strong>Alphonse<\/strong>. <br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais comment proc\u00e9der maintenant ? Voyons si nous pouvons en apprendre davantage sur les \u00e9pouses. \u00c9mile a \u00e9t\u00e9 mari\u00e9 \u00e0 Nelly Bar\u00e9 et Alphonse \u00e0 Delia Guyot. Je dois essayer de trouver plus d'informations sur ces dames. Cela pourrait nous faire progresser dans notre recherche, mais nous pourrions aussi bien nous retrouver \u00e0 la case d\u00e9part. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J'ai <a href=\"https:\/\/nl.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Van_Delft\">Wikip\u00e9dia de la famille Van Delft<\/a> ouvert et je reste un peu \u00e0 contempler la suite des \u00e9v\u00e9nements. Mon regard tombe alors sur le chapitre \u201c Litt\u00e9rature \u201d de cette page.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"711\" height=\"172\" data-attachment-id=\"642\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/fr\/2019\/05\/25\/635\/knipselvandelft\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?fit=711%2C172&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"711,172\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Hoofdstuk Literatuur\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;Hoofdstuk Literatuur&lt;\/p&gt;\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Hoofdstuk Literatuur&lt;\/p&gt;\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?fit=711%2C172&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl.transurl.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?resize=711%2C172\" alt=\"Chapitre Litt\u00e9rature\" class=\"wp-image-642\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?w=711&amp;ssl=1 711w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?resize=18%2C4&amp;ssl=1 18w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?resize=300%2C73&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hisstoryantiques.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/KnipselVanDelft.jpg?resize=600%2C145&amp;ssl=1 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 711px) 100vw, 711px\" \/><figcaption>Chapitre Litt\u00e9rature<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En effet, la litt\u00e9rature mentionne un livre sur les armoiries de la noblesse belge. Pourquoi ne l'ai-je pas remarqu\u00e9 plus t\u00f4t ? Ce livre pourrait bien constituer la pi\u00e8ce manquante du puzzle. En effet, nous savons \u00e0 quoi ressemble le blason de la dame et nous avons deux noms de famille. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Chercher rapidement le livre sur Internet. Lorsque je saisis le titre dans l'\u00e9cran de recherche, plusieurs r\u00e9sultats apparaissent. Il est frappant de constater qu'il se compose de quatre parties. Voyons combien co\u00fbte l'ensemble. 700 \u20ac !!!!!!!!!! C'est quand m\u00eame beaucoup pour cette recherche. J'avoue que ce sont de magnifiques livres, mais ils sont aussi assez rares. Et maintenant ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un document PDF est \u00e9galement mentionn\u00e9 dans les r\u00e9sultats de recherche. Ce document est peut-\u00eatre t\u00e9l\u00e9chargeable et contient les informations que nous cherchons. Je clique sur l'URL et je vois qu'il faut s'inscrire pour t\u00e9l\u00e9charger le fichier. Dommage, car je n'en ai pas envie pour l'instant. En r\u00e9fl\u00e9chissant \u00e0 la prochaine \u00e9tape, je fais d\u00e9filer la page vers le bas. Je vois alors quelque chose qui pourrait bien nous faire avancer consid\u00e9rablement \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026..<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dans une impasse ? Notre recherche se termine-t-elle ici ? Lisez l'histoire\u2026\u2026<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":650,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"Opd dood spoor? 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